Zen 6 will be a total redesign. Zen 5 is just Zen 3++. Also rumoured to have a new IO die capable of faster ram speeds by then also and double the core count.
Same here. I'm still waiting for decent price for a x650e/x670e board, under $200. The 7800x3d under $300 is my tipping point.
But why? You can manually limit the TDP's yourself, it takes like 3-5 seconds.That's a nothingburger
Must be a pretty light application if you saw 0 improvement. In your case, yeah dont bother upgrading.
Because this means you get the quoted performance at the factory TDP, unlike Intel where you can lower the TDP yourself and promptly get LESS than the advertised performance.
As Adam said, limiting TDP can and will lower max performance. And it will still use more power than AMD.
Why does "quote" performance even matter? Yes if you get a 125w chip (like the 7700x) and limit it to 65w it will be slower, but it's not any slower than if the 7700x was released at 65w originally. So what difference does it make whether the 9700x is a 65w chip or a 125w chip? You can limit it at whatever value you like.
That's rather like boasting a lead in the home surgery DIY market. The OEM & VAR markets encompass the vast majority of revenues -- and do so without the hassles and high return rate of DIY sales.
This is hardly the disadvantage you portray it. Intel w/ AVX-256 beats AMD w/ AVX-512 on many workloads. And in any case, AVX is a dead-end technology -- wide SIMD workloads should be being performed on the GPU at this point, not the CPU.
I would like to see examples about that one.
"Intel w/ AVX-256 beats AMD w/ AVX-512 on many workloads." - I don't know what workloads you are talking about, but in general that should not be the case.
we don't know that yet. let's wait for third party testing
Should I click, should I not click on the x-marks-the-spot link...puiule.Ryzen has been outselling Intel in the DIY desktop market for a while now. it's why they've been gaining market share a lot in recent years. It hit a record high of 23.9% in Q1 2024, up from 19.8% in Q4 2023 (Mercury Research).
Looking at amazon's top CPUs (US amazon) AMD currently holds the top 8 positions, with Intel having 9 and 10. We also have reports of AMD CPUs massively outselling in Europe and Asia.
Mindfactory sales show AMD above 90%:
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As for mobile market share, that also grew a lot because of how bad Intel dropped the ball with Meteor Lake. It's up from 16.2% to 19.3%.
A few years are not enough to offset such a large difference, but if Intel's next generations are not good then AMD will eventually surpass it.
The worst part for Intel is that AMD now has 23.6% market share in servers (up from 1.3% in just 6 years), with a massive 33% revenue share.
Intel's only saving grace is that OEMs are slow to transition away from Intel. They barely started adding proper AMD systems to their portfolio in last 2-3 years. I'm not sure if Intel is "sweetening" the deal for them or not (like they did in the past), but the slower than expected sales for this market is showing a positive effect for AMD recently.
See as AMD shared gaming benchmark vs Intel in and what this website provides benchmark for 7800x3d vs intel 14900k you can see clearly ryzen 9950x will smash 7800x3d.we don't know that yet. let's wait for third party testing
I'm still waiting for third party results. I agree Zen5 should on paper be faster, but these are first party results which could be cherry picked and with weird benchmark settings.See as AMD shared gaming benchmark vs Intel in and what this website provides benchmark for 7800x3d vs intel 14900k you can see clearly ryzen 9950x will smash 7800x3d.
Cyberpunk 2077
9950x > 14900K by 13%
7800x3d:189 fps
14900K: 169 fps
9950x: 190 fps
Horizon Zero Dawn
9950x > 14900K by 23%
7800x3d:272 fps
14900K: 243 fps
9950x: 298 fps
F1 23
9950x > 14900K by 16%
7800x3d:236 fps
14900K: 230 fps
9950x: 266 fps
Link of benchmark
7800x3D VS 14900K
